{"id":22128,"date":"2020-03-31T18:00:31","date_gmt":"2020-03-31T22:00:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/?p=22128"},"modified":"2020-04-08T03:11:53","modified_gmt":"2020-04-08T07:11:53","slug":"arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/","title":{"rendered":"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess &#8211; Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess &#8211; Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Beyond Understanding and Empathy to Collaborating and \u201cCo-Resisting\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Aired Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 2:00 PM PST \/ 5:00 PM EST<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?resize=750%2C400&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Wiki Politiki Radio Show Steve Bhaerman OMTimes Radio\" width=\"750\" height=\"400\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12275\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?w=750&amp;ssl=1 750w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?resize=300%2C160&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?resize=650%2C347&amp;ssl=1 650w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?resize=70%2C37&amp;ssl=1 70w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?resize=600%2C320&amp;ssl=1 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess - Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies?\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/media\/player\/n5xtn-d89376&#038;?from=usersite&#038;skin=1&#038;fonts=Helvetica&#038;auto=0&#038;download=1&#038;share=1&#038;version=1&#038;btn-skin=108\" height=\"122\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><em>Interview with Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess, Co-Authors (with Randall Charles Paul) of &#8220;Inevitable Influencers: Why (deep down) We All Want\u2014and Need\u2014to Persuade Each Other of What We See as Good, Beautiful, and True <\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cQ. How do I end an argument with someone I disagree with?<br \/>\nA. Tell them, \u2018You\u2019re absolutely right. And so am I.\u2019\u201d<br \/>\n&#8212; Swami Beyondananda<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A gay Marxist Spanish teacher and a Mormon mindfulness practitioner walk into a bar \u2013 and that is NOT a joke.<\/p>\n<p>Despite seemingly opposite backgrounds, Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess have not only become friends, but also collaborators. And they have done so by boldly speaking their truths with, and listening to, one another. At a time when people are de-platformed and \u201ccanceled\u201d for speaking their truth and political correctness is proving itself politically incorrect, how DO we use our differences in a dynamic and transformational way?<\/p>\n<p>My guests this week Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess, are the co-authors along with Randall Charles Paul of an upcoming book, <em>&#8220;Inevitable Influencers: Why (deep down) We All Want\u2014and Need\u2014to Persuade Each Other of What We See as Good, Beautiful, and True\u201d<\/em>. (Wow. What a title. With a title that long, who needs a book?)<\/p>\n<p>Truth, beauty and goodness \u2013 as Plato stated and Rudolf Steiner reiterated \u2013 are the manifest expressions of love. And while love may be universal, love\u2019s expressions are diverse. And while there\u2019s a part of us who want to pretend these our differences can be glossed over, in doing so we miss out on the power of genuine engagement.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a quote from their book introduction:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Without authentic conversation across our differences\u2014 with a genuine (albeit sometimes wary) openness to mutual persuasion\u2014we fear we\u2019ll be missing something very profound and precious. That\u2019s why we argue here for the importance\u2014for the vital necessity even\u2014of \u201ccollaborative contestation among rivals\u201d as we sometimes like to call it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-22130 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Arthur-Pena.jpg?resize=250%2C333&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Arthur-Pena_Wiki-Politiki_OMTimes-Radio\" width=\"250\" height=\"333\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Arthur-Pena.jpg?w=960&amp;ssl=1 960w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Arthur-Pena.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Arthur-Pena.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Arthur Pe\u00f1a is a semi-retired teacher of Spanish and English as a Second Language. He has an M.A. in linguistics from the University of Iowa, and a Certificate in Conflict Resolution from Sonoma State University. Specializing in dialogue between liberals and conservatives, Arthur is a member of the National Coalition of Dialogue &amp; Deliberation, and has organized and facilitated public discussion forums on controversial political issues, as well as a number of ongoing local Living Room Conversations.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter  wp-image-22131\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Jacob-Hess.png?resize=250%2C240&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Jacob-Hess_Wiki-Politiki_OMTimes-Radio\" width=\"250\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Jacob-Hess.png?w=566&amp;ssl=1 566w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Jacob-Hess.png?resize=300%2C288&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Jacob Hess is a mindfulness teacher and writer focused on exploring long-term, sustainable healing from depression. He is on the board of the National Coalition of Dialogue &amp; Deliberation and co-author of \u201cYou\u2019re Not as Crazy as I Thought, But You\u2019re Still Wrong\u201d \u2013 and has a passion for preserving space for people to disagree sharply, while still loving and respecting each other. He has a Ph.D. in clinical-community psychology from the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re curious about how we move we can learn to disagree without becoming enemies, and shift from polite understanding and empathy to dynamic collaboration and \u201cco-resisting\u201d, please join us this Tuesday, April 7th 2-3 pm PT \/ 5-6 pm ET. <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/shows\/wiki-politiki-radio-show\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/shows\/wiki-politiki-radio-show\/<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To find out more about their upcoming book please go here: <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/publicsquaremag.org\/editorials\/why-persuasion-shouldnt-be-a-dirty-word\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/publicsquaremag.org\/editorials\/why-persuasion-shouldnt-be-a-dirty-word\/<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Support Wiki Politiki \u2014 A Clear Voice In the \u201cBewilderness\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>If you LOVE what you hear, and appreciate the mission of Wiki Politiki, \u201cput your money where your mouse is\u201d \u2026\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>Join the \u201cupwising\u201d \u2014 join the conversation, and become a Wiki Politiki supporter:\u00a0<\/em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/wikipolitiki.com\/join-the-upwising\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>http:\/\/wikipolitiki.com\/join-the-upwising\/<\/em><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Make a contribution in any amount via PayPal\u00a0(<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/y8fe9dks\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/y8fe9dks<\/a>)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Go ahead, PATRONIZE me! Support Wiki Politiki monthly through Patreon!<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/wikipolitiki\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13593 jetpack-lazy-image jetpack-lazy-image--handled\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/Become-a-patron.png?resize=289%2C68&amp;ssl=1\" sizes=\"(max-width: 289px) 100vw, 289px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/Become-a-patron.png?w=289&amp;ssl=1 289w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/Become-a-patron.png?resize=70%2C16&amp;ssl=1 70w\" alt=\"Become-a-patron_Wiki-Politiki_OMTimes-Radio\" width=\"289\" height=\"68\" data-lazy-loaded=\"1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"google-auto-placed ap_container\"><\/div>\n<p>Visit the Wiki Politiki Show page\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/shows\/wiki-politiki-radio-show\/\">https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/shows\/wiki-politiki-radio-show\/<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Connect with Steve Bhaerman at\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/wakeuplaughing.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>https:\/\/wakeuplaughing.com\/<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>#ArthurPe\u00f1a #JacobHess #InevitableInfluencers #SteveBhaerman #WikiPolitiki<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess &#8211; Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies? Beyond Understanding and Empathy to Collaborating and \u201cCo-Resisting\u201d Aired Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 2:00 PM PST \/ 5:00 PM EST Interview with Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess, Co-Authors (with Randall Charles Paul) of &#8220;Inevitable Influencers: Why (deep down) We All Want\u2014and Need\u2014to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":12275,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[9174],"tags":[23642,23644,23643,9175,9225],"class_list":["post-22128","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-wiki-politiki","tag-arthur-pena","tag-inevitable-influencers","tag-jacob-hess","tag-steve-bhaerman","tag-wiki-politiki"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess - Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies? - OMTimes Radio<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Interview with Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess, Co-Authors (with Randall Charles Paul) of &quot;Inevitable Influencers. Join us this Tuesday, April 7th 5-6 pm ET.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess - Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies? - OMTimes Radio\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Interview with Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess, Co-Authors (with Randall Charles Paul) of &quot;Inevitable Influencers. Join us this Tuesday, April 7th 5-6 pm ET.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"OMTimes Radio\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:author\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Omtimes.Magazine\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2020-03-31T22:00:31+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2020-04-08T07:11:53+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"750\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"400\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/png\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"OMTimes Radio\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"OMTimes Radio\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"3 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"OMTimes Radio\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/3bcbe548942fab6ea0ec111c9ec43ff8\"},\"headline\":\"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess &#8211; Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies?\",\"datePublished\":\"2020-03-31T22:00:31+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2020-04-08T07:11:53+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":685,\"commentCount\":0,\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i0.wp.com\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2017\\\/10\\\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1\",\"keywords\":[\"Arthur Pe\u00f1a\",\"Inevitable Influencers\",\"Jacob Hess\",\"Steve Bhaerman\",\"Wiki Politiki\"],\"articleSection\":[\"Wiki-Politiki\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"CommentAction\",\"name\":\"Comment\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/#respond\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/\",\"name\":\"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess - Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies? - OMTimes Radio\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/#website\"},\"primaryImageOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i0.wp.com\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2017\\\/10\\\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1\",\"datePublished\":\"2020-03-31T22:00:31+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2020-04-08T07:11:53+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/3bcbe548942fab6ea0ec111c9ec43ff8\"},\"description\":\"Interview with Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess, Co-Authors (with Randall Charles Paul) of \\\"Inevitable Influencers. Join us this Tuesday, April 7th 5-6 pm ET.\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/#primaryimage\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i0.wp.com\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2017\\\/10\\\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i0.wp.com\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2017\\\/10\\\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1\",\"width\":750,\"height\":400,\"caption\":\"Wiki Politiki Radio Show Steve Bhaerman OMTimes Radio\"},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/2020\\\/03\\\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\\\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess &#8211; Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies?\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/\",\"name\":\"OMTimes Radio\",\"description\":\"The Voice of Consciousness\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/3bcbe548942fab6ea0ec111c9ec43ff8\",\"name\":\"OMTimes Radio\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/7c0c1f14a651d532fb0d8b63641a8669c6c71c84ffca5f96cd3c360449e4ee82?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/7c0c1f14a651d532fb0d8b63641a8669c6c71c84ffca5f96cd3c360449e4ee82?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/7c0c1f14a651d532fb0d8b63641a8669c6c71c84ffca5f96cd3c360449e4ee82?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"OMTimes Radio\"},\"description\":\"OMTimes Magazine is one of the leading on-line content providers of positivity, wellness and personal empowerment. Co-Creating a more Conscious Lifestyle.\",\"sameAs\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/www.facebook.com\\\/Omtimes.Magazine\",\"https:\\\/\\\/x.com\\\/omtimes\"],\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/omtimes.com\\\/iom\\\/author\\\/omradio\\\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess - Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies? - OMTimes Radio","description":"Interview with Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess, Co-Authors (with Randall Charles Paul) of \"Inevitable Influencers. Join us this Tuesday, April 7th 5-6 pm ET.","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess - Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies? - OMTimes Radio","og_description":"Interview with Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess, Co-Authors (with Randall Charles Paul) of \"Inevitable Influencers. Join us this Tuesday, April 7th 5-6 pm ET.","og_url":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/","og_site_name":"OMTimes Radio","article_author":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Omtimes.Magazine","article_published_time":"2020-03-31T22:00:31+00:00","article_modified_time":"2020-04-08T07:11:53+00:00","og_image":[{"width":750,"height":400,"url":"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1","type":"image\/png"}],"author":"OMTimes Radio","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"OMTimes Radio","Est. reading time":"3 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/"},"author":{"name":"OMTimes Radio","@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/#\/schema\/person\/3bcbe548942fab6ea0ec111c9ec43ff8"},"headline":"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess &#8211; Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies?","datePublished":"2020-03-31T22:00:31+00:00","dateModified":"2020-04-08T07:11:53+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/"},"wordCount":685,"commentCount":0,"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1","keywords":["Arthur Pe\u00f1a","Inevitable Influencers","Jacob Hess","Steve Bhaerman","Wiki Politiki"],"articleSection":["Wiki-Politiki"],"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"CommentAction","name":"Comment","target":["https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/#respond"]}]},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/","url":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/","name":"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess - Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies? - OMTimes Radio","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1","datePublished":"2020-03-31T22:00:31+00:00","dateModified":"2020-04-08T07:11:53+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/#\/schema\/person\/3bcbe548942fab6ea0ec111c9ec43ff8"},"description":"Interview with Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess, Co-Authors (with Randall Charles Paul) of \"Inevitable Influencers. Join us this Tuesday, April 7th 5-6 pm ET.","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/#primaryimage","url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1","contentUrl":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1","width":750,"height":400,"caption":"Wiki Politiki Radio Show Steve Bhaerman OMTimes Radio"},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/2020\/03\/arthur-pena-and-jacob-hess\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Arthur Pe\u00f1a and Jacob Hess &#8211; Can We Disagree Without Becoming Enemies?"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/#website","url":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/","name":"OMTimes Radio","description":"The Voice of Consciousness","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/#\/schema\/person\/3bcbe548942fab6ea0ec111c9ec43ff8","name":"OMTimes Radio","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/7c0c1f14a651d532fb0d8b63641a8669c6c71c84ffca5f96cd3c360449e4ee82?s=96&d=mm&r=g","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/7c0c1f14a651d532fb0d8b63641a8669c6c71c84ffca5f96cd3c360449e4ee82?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/7c0c1f14a651d532fb0d8b63641a8669c6c71c84ffca5f96cd3c360449e4ee82?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"OMTimes Radio"},"description":"OMTimes Magazine is one of the leading on-line content providers of positivity, wellness and personal empowerment. Co-Creating a more Conscious Lifestyle.","sameAs":["https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Omtimes.Magazine","https:\/\/x.com\/omtimes"],"url":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/author\/omradio\/"}]}},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Wiki-Politiki-Radio-Show_Steve-Bhaerman_OMTimes-Radio.png?fit=750%2C400&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22128","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22128"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22128\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":22157,"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22128\/revisions\/22157"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/12275"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22128"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22128"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/omtimes.com\/iom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22128"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}