Jill Mattson: The Lost Waves of Time

Jill Mattson has authored several sound healing books and lectures throughout the United States on the topic of sound, spirit, and matter. She draws on her extensive research of modern sound healing and a 20-year study of antiquities and secret societies to show the incredible power and healing capabilities of sound.  And she’s the author of the award-winning book The Lost Waves of Time: The Untold Story of How Music Shaped Our World.

An Interview with Jill Mattson: The Lost Waves of Time

Interview by Victor Fuhrman

 

 

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Can we perceive the sounds and vibrations of the universe, of everything? And if we can, how can we benefit from this in body, mind, and spirit?

Jill Mattson, has the answer to these questions. Jill is an accomplished artist, musician, lecturer, and author of The Lost Waves of Time. She’s a recording artist with numerous CDs using ancient and modern sound healing techniques. Her Deep Wave Beauty CD was a finalist for the Coalition of Visionary Resources Specialty CD of 2012.

 

Victor Fuhrman: We’re so pleased to have you with us. And so, let’s talk about you to begin our little conversation tonight. How did your journey of discovery begin?

Jill Mattson: I went on a spiritual quest, a midlife spiritual quest after reading the Old Testament. And being quite upset with God’s moodiness and some of his intent and actions, I decided that whatever you perceived God to be had a reflection on who you were. So, if I had a mean and angry, judgmental God, then that would reflect on who I was.

So, I went on a quest, a spiritual quest to find the most beautiful, highest, loving God I could. And since I started being dissatisfied with the Old Testament, I went to the Serpentine Version and quickly ended up in the Kabbalah. Shortly after that, I ended up in the ancient Samarian mysteries and like, ooh-la-la.

The ancient world used sound for everything. It was a toolbox. And the idea that sound as entertainment to them would be such a dangerous idea that people could not understand that we ingest sound and they change us. And we’re like lambs to the slaughter. We don’t think about what we listen to or are exposed to, and it makes a huge difference.

So, my life is all about changing the way the world perceives sound and music, for it’s a powerful tool, and it can make our life so much better with careful use.

 

Victor Fuhrman: What secrets did the ancients know about energy, matter, and sound?

Jill Mattson: I think the better question almost would be what secrets didn’t they know. In the beginning, when I read the new stories about the ancient masters, there’s a lot coming out that hasn’t hit our textbooks yet. That’s because they’re just translating cuneiform. They’re just really digging into what the Egyptian papyri are saying. They’re just translating the Incas and the Mayans and the Aztecs. This stuff is new.

There’s a host of stuff out on the ancient cultures of Lemuria and Atlantis that’s not channeled but is referred to in these ancient historical writings. They describe these early beings as almost not homo sapiens. I would say that they’re more like an elf or a fairy or not quite so solid, more of a group soul. And they have access to interpreting a greater range of the electromagnetic spectrum. But, these ancient people had different sources. They were highly clairvoyant, highly clairaudient.

I like to think of Sharry Edwards today with her extraordinary hearing like a dolphin or Donna Eden who can look at your circulation and organs in your body through her clairvoyance. This is the type of beings they’re describing in these early races.

So, are these people gonna use words for communication? Well, probably not. They use them–sounds, vibrations, energies, the whole spectrum for different purposes.

They’re using sound for practical purposes, for health, for strength, for warfare, to grow your garden, to rehabilitate a criminal, just stuff that we would never even think of.

 

Victor Fuhrman: Some of what you’re referring to is known as subtle energy. What is subtle energy, and how does it work, and how does it affect us?

Jill Mattson: Loosely speaking, subtle energy would be quantum energy, quantum energy or tiny packets of energy. So, like if you’re, you know, feeling something and you notice just a tiny little feeling, that would be subtle energy. It’s just a little tiny packet of energy. With our outlook or perception today, most people don’t notice.

But, it builds up. And I’d like you to think of this example. Think of the Colorado River, and the water flows down, and it, of course, bends to the shape of the rocks. So, you’d say, hmm, rocks roll. But, then you look up at the Grand Canyon. No, water rolls. Because of the consistency over time, that little trickle of that subtle water slowly shapes the rocks. And that’s like subtle energy, constantly changing us, constantly influencing us – very powerful.

 

Victor Fuhrman: In your amazing book, The Lost Waves of Time, you discuss the idea of involution and evolution as they relate to matter and spirit. Please share with our listeners the significance of involution and evolution.

Jill Mattson: I made up the world involution to distinguish between the evolution of physical matter from Darwin and the evolution of a soul or consciousness. And I believe that the path of consciousness starts out as all that is or God, and through the different epics and the different time periods, you can see that the subtle energy forces tombs, these beams, and they become further from God.

And you can watch the music in each culture, look at the mathematics underneath the music and see it making them more individual, further away from God. And then, of course, music can take us back on the fast track, as well.

And my theory that I present in The Lost Waves of Time is that we do this because we’re gods growing up, we’re children of God, and we’re growing up. We’re learning to be responsible, to make our own choices. We’re learning what it feels like to be all on our own and how to take charge of situations.

And I believe that that’s why people incarnate. And as the music takes us further and further from God, we learn skills and strengths and how to master matter, the heaviest, densest of energy.

And then when we evolve in our spirit and consciousness to be more connected with all that is, we take back all these new skills. So, I’m excited about that thought.

 

Victor Fuhrman: That is a fascinating concept. Is this something that goes on lifetime after lifetime?

Jill Mattson: I believe so.

 

Victor Fuhrman: How do numbers relate to energy and sound?

Jill Mattson: The ancient man believed that all is a number. And in fact, that’s a famous quote from Pythagoras, and it–the same quote will be found in the ancient Chinese, the ancient Egyptians, etc. They believed that the higher use of numbers was energy. And our mathematics today, they would call the vulgar use of numbers.

At any rate, think of the number one as like being all by yourself, standing on your own, being alone and how that feels. And then think about being in a relationship, you know, two, a couple and how that feels. And then just kind of let your feelings wander to the difference between three people in a relationship – father, mother, child.

So, numbers were the root of creation, and ancient man likened the universe something to our string theory today, and they discussed different worlds or dimensions having different tunings.

So, in different consciousness, different patterns of numbers created different things in matter. And so, understanding the numbers was the understanding of the most basic building blocks of creation in the universe.

And if you look at the Samarian mysteries, very, very old, the cradle of society on some of the oldest stuff we’ve got written today, their gods are gods of numbers because the number represents energy and that energy through resonance.

 

Victor Fuhrman: Some of this was expressed in ancient Sanskrit writings and then taken by Fibonacci and expressed in his number sequence, the Fibonacci Numbers and in the Golden Mean or the Golden Ratio. Please share how that evolved.

Jill Mattson: The Ancient man could liken God to creating the world with sound. And let’s say you have an old Etch-A-Sketch. That’s a toy where you try to draw, and you only have two knobs. And one knob makes a curved line. Yet, the other knob makes a straight line.

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