Victor Fuhrman: It’s interesting that you share that because there’s a Buddhist concept called readiness in time, meaning we have to have a series of experiences before we’re ready to embrace something new or something that’s been there before, but that is now ready to come to its fulfillment in our lives. Please tell us how these events shaped your path as an empathic healer and spiritual teacher.
Matt Kahn: I think that from an early age, what’s interesting about my path is that I seem to straddle the line between one foot in the esoteric and having esoteric experiences every day and one foot on the path of awakening or the path of dharma and wisdom. And sometimes, in spirituality, you have all dharma and no esoteric, and sometimes, you have all esoteric and no dharma. And so, what’s interesting is my first life experience of spirituality that I just described gave me a very esoteric opening to the fact that there’s something much bigger in life than what we see with our normal senses, something much bigger. But then I went off and developed an ego, went into middle school, and discovered social status and all these things, such as achievement and seeking. And so, I think that the order in which I’ve had experiences has helped me to really have a unique view of the spiritual journey where, for me, it’s not all esoteric, and it’s not all dharma.
They’re actually two sides of the same coin. They’re two sides of the same reality. And I think what’s interesting about that is that there are stages of our spiritual development that will be esoteric in nature. Some are going to be more dharmic in nature. And for me, my whole life journey has allowed me to look at wisdom and healing on many levels, many layers, and many different frequencies. And so, when I’m working with someone, what frequency does this require? Is this more of an esoteric in nature? Is this more of a dharmic in nature? And so I think it’s helped me, even as a human being, to integrate very big cosmic spiritual experiences and ground them in very mature, meaningful action and embodiment. And I think that’s really the direction humanity is going in, so it’s not like we’re going to one extreme side over here and then another, but how do we bring these two sides together?
How do we bring big esoteric experiences, and how do we ground them into the most mature, insightful, and mindful decision-making that’s going to really evolve our lives forward and allow us to support the expansion of all? And so, I look back on my life, and I look back at what seems like a lot of very different experiences, and I look back, and I go, gosh, what a plan was created for me, and it unfolded perfectly. And it wasn’t until 30-some-odd years into my life journey that I could turn back and look at things and go: “Wow, what a perfect plan was created.” I am truly grateful to have taken this journey and continued it, but what a perfect plan was created.
Victor Fuhrman: I had the blessing of a wonderful spiritual teacher when I attended interfaith seminary in the mid-1990s. He would share that, and I quote, everything is unfolding in divine order that we may not understand or like what is transpiring, but in retrospect and with spiritual eyes, we will see that there is a higher purpose. Do you resonate with that sentiment?
Matt Kahn: I do resonate with that sentence. I think that the confusion comes from people’s egos; they think if things are not in divine order, they have to do something about it. Conversely, if everything is in divine order, there’s Nothing for me to do. And I think the middle ground, which I’m always, I’m always promoting the middle way, is yes, everything’s in divine order. Yes, everything is created as a catalyst that will expand consciousness. Yes, everything is making us better; everything is evolving the world, but that’s not without our participation; that’s with our participation. So, it’s. I like to look at the world as a multi-dimensional training program. I often call the world the Angel Academy, where we incarnate, and no matter where we are in the incarnation cycle, we are here in a school or on a field trip, learning how to be spirit guides and angels in training. And we’re doing that on our journeys as each incarnation version of ourselves. And so we look at the state of the world right now, yes, this, what we’re seeing in the world, is divinely appointed, but it’s also divinely appointed for all of us to play very specific roles so that we participate in experiencing the evolution of an entire species and planet, which is part of the training program for all the souls that we will guide in future incarnations as spirit guides and angels and training.
Victor Fuhrman: You’ve gifted our world with a series of wonderful books, fulfilling your childhood aspiration of becoming an author in many ways. Let’s discuss some of these, starting with “Whatever Arises, Love That”. What inspired that book, and what did you share with your readers?
Matt Kahn: When I started doing healing work, and I only know what I’ve learned from the universe and my direct conversations with my angels in this end master’s, and I started delivering messages to people, and I started to work with people in, in healing and I didn’t understand all the other spiritual paths. I learned them by doing intuitive sessions. I would stand outside myself, listen to what they would say, listen to what I would intuitively say, and mentally take notes. Over the years, I kind of figured out a lot of the other paths just by observation. And I couldn’t understand that I always experienced the universe’s source energy, whatever you want to call God’s consciousness, the one, whatever you want to refer to the source as. I knew that to be a source of infinite wisdom and infinite love.
And Nothing but infinite wisdom and love made up the source of energy. And I would watch so many people on their spiritual path, whether it’s healing, awakening, manifestation, or the goal of attracting their soulmate. And they would go about these goals or have a go, go towards these experiences in ways that weren’t always embodying the love that I experienced when tapping into the source. And so, my inspiration became, if we are all moving back into the living remembrance of source and source is infinite wisdom and love, then perhaps the paths we take to reconnect with source must be equally wise and loving. I realized that many of the spiritual goals people had been trying to move away from their experiences, and their experiences and symptoms were the parts of them begging for the love they hadn’t received in earlier years.
So, I started to realize that I think there needs to be a fundamental focus on unconditional love and loving ourselves. And that if we’re going to take a journey towards the remembrance of spirit and spirit is infinite love, then every step of that journey back to spirit must be just as loving. And so, it became my life purpose to teach the world how every stage of spiritual development, awakening, healing, integration, manifestation, whatever it is, can be done and can only occur when we are aligned with love. It’s kind of like if we were to go to school during the summer when no one was there, and then we think we should get credits when school wasn’t in session. We don’t get credit for our work unless we are aligned with love. And so, it became this really incredible download and realization that I started having.
And again, it became this mission of mine to be the person who reminds the world that every step forward must be taken most lovingly. And how do we love ourselves versus just loving the ideas of ourselves or pretending or imagining understanding how powerful loving ourselves can be versus what it means to love ourselves? And this excited me in every fiber of my being. And it became something fresh and new that I began bringing to the spiritual communities and to this industry. In the very beginning, it was like I was speaking a different language, and over time, this message of love and how it affects our nervous system and how it really is such a central part of our spiritual development is awakening in more and more beings. But this was the initial insight that led to my passion for the work I do and to do it only in the name of love.
Victor Fuhrman: You wrote a book called: “The Universe Always Has a Plan,” the Ten and Golden Rules of Letting Go. And you offer readers ten golden rules to help unlock emotional freedom. What was the foundation of these rules?
Matt Kahn: The foundation of this book was that it has been known for many years and taught for lifetimes that everything happens for a reason. And I began to see how people would say that statement from a place of resignation. They would kind of say it in this half-defeated, oh, everything happens for a reason. And then, I began to be inspired by the idea of what if I could explain why things happen in detail. It became an inspiration, you know, and we also hear about the phrase letting go and what that means to let go and what it is because letting go for many people is about pushing things away and avoiding and bypassing. So, what does it really mean to surrender to the universe without being defeated by the universe? What does it mean that everything happens for a reason? When I think back to the 10 golden rules. I think the first one is you’ve done Nothing wrong. That was the first chapter. You’ve done Nothing wrong. And I think another one I remember is that anyone angry is unhappy. I think back to these golden rules, and I can’t remember the other eight, but it helps people have perspective, understand, and separate the difference between their experience and other people’s experiences. It helps us have the wisdom to be true to our experience, not needing everyone to agree with our experience. And when we understand the infinite wisdom and love of the universe, we’re all souls on a journey. We’re all on different journeys. We’re all learning things in different order.
We’re all in different semesters of the same curriculum. So, how do we coexist as spiritually evolved beings? How do we exist in a way where we live our lives, make decisions, and are not afraid of taking risks without taking life out on ourselves? So, when I wrote the second book, it was just a platform for me to take all of the misunderstandings and contradictions I had seen throughout the spiritual journey as I started entering it. I wanted to bring the world just a clear view of here’s a clear way to help you navigate your life forward. The first book, “How Do You Love Yourself and How Loving Yourself, is a cornerstone of your healing journey.” And the second book was How do we start moving forward? And how do we begin navigating a life of wisdom by making wise choices and respecting other people’s experiences, even if they do not always respect our experiences?
Victor Fuhrman: Wonderful. Congratulations on your award-winning and bestselling latest book, all for Love, the Transformative Power of Holding Space. It won both the Ohm Times only award for winner of World Vision Books and the Independent Publisher’s Book Awards gold medal for inspiration and spiritual books. So, did you have that in mind when you wrote that book? Then this might be the last book that you write,
Matt Kahn: When I wrote this book, it was during the time of the George Floyd incident, and when we were, the world was experiencing a greater awareness of things like systemic racism and how are we gonna move through all these differences and how are we gonna really bring the world together and how are we gonna bring the world together without needing every person to think and believe the same thing? Like how are, what are we going to do here in this? We always hear in spirituality, right?
The intention is to manifest heaven on earth and global peace for all. How will we tangibly do this in a world of individuality? And, what’s the way, what, what’s the thing the world could benefit right now? And during that time in history, um, a few years ago, when I started to realize is that when I think back to the most compelling dialogues I’ve had with people over my 18-year career, whether in healing sessions or at retreats, the biggest conflicts people have been in communication. So, I wanted to write a book on how people learn to communicate with themselves and others from a place of compassion. How do we speak to others knowing I’m on a healing journey? Everyone’s on a healing journey, whether they’re aware of it or not. And how do we learn to be true and authentic to ourselves and our communication?
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