Matt Kahn: All For Love

Matt Kahn is an incomparable spiritual teacher, highly attuned empathic healer, powerful speaker, and captivating author. He enriches people’s lives by providing heart-centered solutions that ignite, delight, and unite! Matt Kahn’s latest book, All For Love: The Transformative Power of Holding Space, won an Ommie Award in the World Vision category.

An Interview with Matt Kahn: All For Love

Interview by Victor Fuhrman

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As a child, Matt Kahn dreamed of being an author someday. After an out-of-body experience at age eight and several profound spiritual awakenings, Matt developed an otherworldly connection to his intuition, allowing him to become a profoundly powerful empathic healer. But then, a back injury changed his path from personal trainer to healer and accelerated his abilities as he solidified his mission to become a spiritual teacher. Matt Kahn wrote highly acclaimed books, Whatever Arrives Love That, Everything Is Here To Help You, and The Universe Always Has A Plan, which were translated into more than a dozen languages. His website is mattkahn.org, and he joins me this week to share his amazing path and his OMTimes Ommie Award-winning book, “All for Love, The Transformative Power of Holding Space.”

Victor Fuhrman: Matt, please share your early life and how it contributed to the work and wisdom you share with our world.

Matt Kahn: From my earliest memory, I remember feeling confused about my emotions and experiences with others because I would start to become aware at a very young age. And, of course, when you’re aware at a young age, it takes many years to kind of become aware of what you’re aware of. But I would notice that when my friends were feeling sad, I could sense the sadness inside my body, and more prominently, I wouldn’t know how to separate my experiences from theirs. And so, most commonly, when other people were sad, I thought they were mad at me because I made everything about myself when I was a young kid, like we all do. And so I spent most of my earlier years; if I think back to my childhood, every time I was around someone sad, I wanted to cheer them up, or I wanted to help uplift their experience, of course, because I wanted them to experience happiness.

But I misinterpreted their experience, which could have been from their family or an argument with the sibling. And I misperceived it as their opinion of me. So, I thought they liked me only when people were happy. And so, I spent many, many years in my earlier development in a stage of what I call vibrational codependency where I don’t know where my emotions begin their end. And I interpret everyone’s experience of me. And these were the earlier experiences that helped me to really, over many, many years, discover that I’m what’s called an empath. For many of the listeners who are also empaths, I would say that everyone is an empath, just at various stages of awareness, realization, and consciousness. And so, as I started to come to the truth of my empathic nature, it wasn’t a matter, and for many listeners, it may be the same way.

It’s not a matter of whether I choose to feel or not feel feelings. I’m in a space where I can’t help but feel. And whether it’s me feeling my own emotions or me feeling the emotions of the world being processed, I’m always in a state of feeling. As I started to get to know this experience, which took many years, curiosity, and a lot of big experiences, I realized that my emotions were like a psychic superpower. As I started to make peace with my feelings and as I started to learn that it wasn’t bad for me to be sensitive as a man and that it’s okay for me to feel and that feeling emotions doesn’t make me too much for people or that I’m not going to lose people in my life by feeling too deeply, my emotions started to give me information and became this intuitive ability where through my feelings I get such specific information.

That helped me over again many years to develop the ability to work with people as an intuitive healer where I can use my emotional body as an imprint of their emotional body. So I can feel where people are at emotionally. I can tune into brain chemistry. And it helped me to assist people in healing compellingly and radically. And it’s a beautiful full circle moment to know that what at the beginning of my life felt like emotions were inundating me or I felt like I was plagued with an ability only to feel and always to be overwhelmed. I’m grateful that what started as something very intense has been developed into a skillset that I have been humbled and grateful to use to help so many people worldwide. So, it’s, it’s truly a full circle moment if I think back to when I was younger and how confused I was about my feelings, not realizing, of course, that my life was this journey that would help me hone these feelings as a tool to support so many in their healing journey.

Victor Fuhrman: Beautiful. I can share with you, and I must say that even though I came into this existence a few decades before you, I had the same sensations growing up. So, thank you for sharing that; it sort of reemphasizes for me that many of us go through this process, and it’s for those who have children who are reflecting those processes now; what would you say? What advice would you give them?

Matt Kahn: It’s an interesting question because I’ve seen it on two sides. I’ve seen parents who unintentionally shut down their children because an adult might come from the egoic mindset that if someone has emotions that come up, they must have a problem that they need to fix. And if I can’t fix it in 10 seconds or less, an adult can get frustrated and feel incapable and actually take that out on a child. And that develops this inner belief that we are too much for people. And, of course, we become people pleasers because we want to be loved and accepted by people, not the most difficult ones to deal with at all times. Then there’s the other side of the coin: a parent might have had spiritual experiences and be very interested in spirituality. The parent might think, if I could only teach my child what I wish I knew back then, and sometimes parents tend to teach a child too much about spirituality when they haven’t taken the child hasn’t taken the time to develop an ego before they’re going to wake up out of it.

Victor Fuhrman: Thank you for that sage advice for the parents who are listening out there with kids manifesting these abilities. Thank you. Yes. An out-of-body experience when you were eight years old led to profound spiritual awakenings. Please describe the event and the understanding that ensued.

Matt Kahn: My goodness, when I was that age, it was during a time in the 1980s, during what was known as the Adam Walsh case, which was a child who was kidnapped. And it was during that time that, as a kid, the big message was Don’t talk to strangers. And I remember being so afraid of being displaced from my parents or being kidnapped that I literally never left my parents’ side when I was very, very young. And so I always felt safe being around my parents. And I say that because one night I went to sleep, and I thought I had a dream, and I found myself in this garden that was like a garden with colors that were of the highest hue and vibrance that I could describe, or I’ve ever seen in my life. It was like HD multiplied by infinity. And the colors were so bright that as I looked at this garden with this incredible spectrum of brilliance, these colors vibrated or emanated this feeling of love. And it felt to me immediately like love beyond anything I’d known from my parents, which was surprising because I was, at that time of my age, my highest knowing of love. And I remember saying to myself what I thought was a dream.

I’m not afraid. I don’t know where I am, but I’m safe. And that was such a big deal for me because I only knew safety as being, you know, glued to my parents’ hips. And so here I was in some location; I didn’t know where I was; my parents were nowhere in sight, and I felt completely safe in being all by myself, these bright colors of the garden bringing forth this vibration of love. And I started to move through this garden and walk around. And I remember walking through a field of waist-high flowers. From that young perspective, the flowers were almost like the height of my hips; I really had to move my legs through this field of waist-high flowers. As I was moving through them, I also then realized I was simultaneously hovering above them, watching myself so I could feel myself moving through the field of flowers.

And I was floating above myself, watching it at the same time. I didn’t know how; I had two different experiences simultaneously, but the love was so intense that it didn’t matter. It was just, oh, well, this is happening. In front of me, about 20 feet, a Being was also floating above the flowers, which had a white robe, a dark beard, and shoulder-length dark hair. And he motioned me towards him, and I froze. And then I started to move towards him naturally. And as soon as I got about five feet from this being, it looked like his eyes were glowing, pure white light. At that age, when I had that experience, for some reason, I thought the association that came up was thinking about scary movies when people like to roll their eyes up into their heads.

And as I thought about this experience, it almost broke the state. And I fell through the garden, I fell through the sky, and then I fell back in my body. Only when I fell back into my body did I realize I left it? And, as I’m in my body again trying to process this, I’m freezing cold, drenched in sweat, and shaking; out of the corner of my eye, in the doorway of my bedroom, I saw the same figure motioning me towards him. But he was kind of made out of this chalky white energy material. And as I looked directly at him, he disappeared. The next morning, I talked to my parents, who are very much into spirituality, and I told them about this experience. My dad then told me how he had a nearly identical experience 30 years before I did when he was meditating in boot camp one day.

I didn’t know the significance, but I knew that there was some connection by sharing such a vivid experience and then my dad relaying nearly the same experience. And it started to help me realize that things in life have connections to other bigger things.

And, of course, I didn’t know what it was at that age, but I tucked it in the back of my mind as “You’ll remember this.” Then I remember going to my next-door neighbor’s house who had a son my age, and I would spend time with him. In their living room, they had this framed picture of this person who was exactly the person I met in my out-of-body experience. And I said, who’s that? And they said, Matt, that’s Jesus. Everyone knows that’s Jesus. And I was raised Jewish, so I didn’t know he was.

I said, well, that’s the guy I met in my dream. My friend laughed and said, Matt, you didn’t meet Jesus. And I said, well, I don’t know who he is, but that’s who I met. From that experience, I started to have in my peripheral vision that I’d walk and see angels with me. I didn’t even know what an angel was, but I intuitively just knew it was an angel. And I would start to have these experiences of spontaneously knowing things without knowing how I know them, but it would strike me as the most obvious truth: these are angels.

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And someone would say, what’s an angel? I don’t know. But I knew enough of just this: this is what it is. And this was the moment that started to really open me up psychically. Interestingly, it wasn’t until my late twenties that those experiences started to expand even further, but that became the moment of activation. That was an initial experience that started to move me in that direction.