David Allen: Life According to the Soul

Today, we have the pleasure of welcoming David Allen, a deeply experienced Life Between Lives facilitator whose work opens a rare doorway into the soul’s larger story.

An Interview with David Allen: Life According to the Soul

Interview by Christopher Buck

Trained in the United Kingdom in 2005 by the final training team led by the legendary Dr. Michael Newton, David has spent many years guiding people into the profound inner landscapes revealed through deep hypnosis. His work invites us to look beyond the surface of daily life and explore the spiritual intelligence that quietly shapes our choices, relationships, emotions, and sense of purpose.

His new book, Life According to the Soul, offers a remarkable bridge between modern life and the deeper self. Through the spiritual experiences of those he has guided, David allows the wisdom of the soul to emerge with clarity, depth, and compassion. The result is not only a collection of extraordinary revelations but a thoughtful exploration of how the soul’s perspective can illuminate everything we think, do, and feel.

David is also the author of The Sophisticated Alcoholic, a bold and original approach to dependency and recovery, and The Living Vote, which presents an evolutionary vision for the future of representative democracy in the United Kingdom.

We will explore the hidden architecture of the soul, the mysteries revealed between lives, and the ways David’s work invites us to understand human existence from a far wider, wiser, and more compassionate point of view.

The Interview

Click the video below to listen to David Allen’s full interview with Christopher Buck.

Christopher Buck – Today, we are speaking with David Allen, a long-established Life between Lives facilitator trained by the legendary Michael Newton. David, welcome.

David Allen – I’m pleased to be here.

Christopher Buck – Let’s get right into this. How do you get to a life between lives? Do you take them back to a past life and then move forward past their death, or do you move backward past birth? How do you coach someone into the area between lives?

David Allen – The process is a gentle but deep hypnotic induction. We begin by concentrating on real-life memories: back to childhood—”You are seven years old, where are you? Tell me about it.” We usually move through three or four memories, and the final one is the womb memory. There are some very important questions that get asked there.
Now, that is the first time I have asked an out-of-world question, something that does not relate to their current life or childhood memories.

The first question in the womb, which is out of this world, is: “When did you first join this fetus?” The responses are almost universally instant—three months, six months. This is normally quite a quick response. Once we’re there, we know we are speaking to the soul.

Christopher Buck – Interesting. Is this the first connection between the fetus and the soul? I ask because some faiths hold that life begins at the first breath, while others hold that it begins at conception. When does the soul fully take residence?

David Allen – It depends on how advanced the soul is. Souls are made of energy. Some of that energy is brought into each life we incarnate into, but not all of it. We are still there in our spiritual home, even though we are occupying a physical one. More advanced souls tend to join the fetus a little later, and they tend to leave and come back. They don’t necessarily stay there once they join, because there’s not much to do, to be honest. Newer souls tend to join earlier because it’s more difficult for them initially. Although even newer souls will have done this many, many times before.

One of the clients I had; her job in between lives was to remove souls whose joining had failed and whose soul energy was being damaged. Her role was just to recover damaged souls and to get them out so that they could be repaired.

Christopher Buck – So you go from when the soul first connects to the fetus to a past life, and then you move them towards their demise in the past life.

David Allen – Yes. We don’t spend very much time in past lives. The objective is to establish what that life was, what they’ve lived, and how they felt after death. From there, we move on.

Christopher Buck – And what happens next?

David Allen – I move people immediately to the day they died. The first question I generally ask is, “Is there anything happening today that suggests that your life might end?” Sometimes people say, “Yes, I’ve been ill for a long time.” Sometimes it’s no, because it’s accidental or a violent death of some description. But importantly, they don’t have to suffer the pain of death again. I just tell them to move right through the death to the moment immediately afterward. So they skip the pain and the trauma of death. This is a very interesting period.

Most people like to think that their dear departed would wish to comfort them in some way, to remain, to try and make some kind of connection, to try and indicate that they’re still there. That’s what we would like to believe. The reality is that, overwhelmingly, once somebody’s died, they’ve had enough; their general opinion is to just go home without lingering.

Which is quite rational when you realize they are suddenly viewing things from a much broader, much higher perspective. They’ve now moved right into a completely different environment, and they see what happened in their life for what it is. It was a lesson; it was a life.

That was quite surprising. And it is not one or two people. It’s a very consistent attitude and response from people who have departed. We like to think that if someone we’ve lived with and loved our whole lives has passed, they would want to try to console us. Whereas the reality is, they have no such interest because they know that the rest of the primary soul group and we are in their spiritual home anyway. They’re always there. So, it’s about going home.

Christopher Buck – What happens next?

David Allen – Well, the first thing is the journey back. There are quite a lot of questions about this transfer: how people move, in which direction, and what they’re feeling as they move. Do they go quickly, or what do they see? How do they get to where they’re going? But generally, the first interaction they have is the healing shower.

Now that’s a description Michael Newton applied, and it fits very well. A lot of people, not everybody, describe a process of being enveloped in the light and the sensation of being strengthened by it.

How long this process goes on for, I’ve never waited to find out because, as it’s a memory, we can move through to the end. After the healing shower, people are invariably met by either their guide first or members of their primary soul group. And this is really important, and I spend quite a lot of time on this in getting them to identify who these people are. Well, firstly, they’re not people, they’re energy signatures, if you like, but they can represent themselves as physical forms because it’s easier for somebody who has just left a physical form to identify it.

But the more time they spend with them, the better they recognize them.

It’s not so much recognizing a face. It’s not recognizing a voice because there is no voice, but it’s recognizing the energy signature of the person as he’s my son, or he’s my husband, or she’s my sister, or she’s my aunt. This important group of people works with you in any life you incarnate into. And it’s an amazing experience. We go one-to-one, from left to right: Who’s that? Who’s this? Who’s that? Who’s this?

I do that because this whole process is specifically tailored to the client’s needs. They need to know who these souls are and how they relate to their current lives. Guides are usually there; they’re often not hugely communicative, but can be if you push them to respond. I ask people to just ask again.

The client has to put into words concepts that we don’t have here on our planet. So they have to find ways of expressing it, which is why people refer to things in earthly terms. The Council is made of pillars. It’s a building, it’s a house. It’s green grass, it’s energy. So, to give us a sense of what they are experiencing, they must use descriptions that we can understand here.

Christopher Buck – One of the things that you found interesting in your interviews is the response when you asked if God or Jesus was there? What do they look like? Did anybody mention an interaction with the Divine?

David Allen – Strangely, no. Nobody mentions Jesus. Nobody mentions God. I do know, from one question I asked a quite advanced soul, that there is a source of all soul energy and life. Who is it? How does it work? Where is it? The people that I’m talking to don’t know that. But there is a source.

It doesn’t matter which religion you’re referring to; they’re never mentioned. I don’t know why that is, because you can’t really ask the question, ‘Why haven’t you seen Jesus?’ They only know what they experience, and it is kind of focused on the individual. So whether it’s beyond what they know or something entirely different, I don’t know. I think one person once mentioned an understanding of Jesus, but it had nothing to do with the meeting or anything like that. It just never comes up. It just doesn’t happen.

Christopher Buck – The master plan, how everything is managed, I think, is far beyond our individual ability to perceive at this level.

David Allen – It is. And I’m not trying to find out everything about everything, which is a bit different from Michael Newton’s approach. He was conducting intensive research. My sessions with clients are for them: what they want and what they want to achieve. So what happens is largely about what they want to happen.

Christopher Buck – When the soul is ready to come back to Earth School, you review with your guide what your new soul purpose will be? What are the experiences that you want to experience to foster your soul’s growth during the next life?

David Allen – Yes, of course. This is one of the areas clients themselves want to explore: life selection. How does one choose what kind of life is going to be next? And how is that choice made? It is often recommended by the guides. Individuals have their opportunity to review former lives. Also, they have an effective counseling session with a group of senior souls as part of an evaluation.

But when it comes to deciding on a new life, it’s almost always something the guides recommend. Sometimes there is no alternative choice. Guides will say, “This is what you need to do.” Souls say they do not have to do that if they do not want to. They may choose not to take lives for eons, if that is the case. But eventually, most do. Of course, I only talk to people who have taken that choice, so I never get to talk to people who haven’t incarnated.

Nobody can answer the questions about how many don’t make a choice or decide to procrastinate.
In my experience, the soul has no more than three choices, but it gets an opportunity to see a rough outline of existence.

The details are left to free will, and sometimes things go dreadfully wrong in life for one reason or another. But it’s sketched out, and they will make a choice. Now, it’s not uncommon for souls to make a fairly easy choice. It’s also not uncommon for souls to make difficult choices: to adopt lives where they would suffer extreme hardship, because you cannot learn effectively from a soft environment. And it’s one of the reasons this planet Earth is so popular for incarnations: it’s harsh and incredibly physical. We have enormous, enormous pleasure from these bodies. And they can suffer enormous pain, hardship, cruelty: the diversity of feelings and behavior is almost unlimited.

Christopher Buck – Earth School is not for sissies.

David Allen – That’s not the case in other environments. We sometimes talk to people who have experienced an incarnation elsewhere, perhaps just as energy, perhaps as some plant form, something much, much kinder, much easier, much simpler. But on this planet, life’s tough.

It’s almost like taking a fast-track course, if you like, for advancement. They have a desire to improve and advance, with the overriding objective of a highly developed sense of compassion and love. That’s basically why we are here. Souls that are very advanced have no need to incarnate anymore. So we never get a chance to talk to them. We only talk to the people who are here. But that’s something else, which is surprising because people don’t come to us in deep hypnosis with the knowledge of the universe.

They only know so much. They only know what they do, what they’re told to do, what their role might be in the spiritual realm. People talk of being trainers, healers, soul healers, and experimenters with energy as the roles they take on. And when you imagine that effectively our spiritual realm is endless, and this planet is just a tiny part of it, a minuscule part of it, like a grain of sand in all the universities that exist. So they talk about what they know, whereas you might expect they would be filled with all-knowing, having passed this life. That’s not the case, because they have a great deal more to learn.

Christopher Buck – It sounds like the soul has a punch list of different challenges that it must work through. And they choose to come here to concentrate on those lessons.

David Allen – Well, there is a startling example in the book. And it’s the only one of thousands of hours of testimony that I’ve taken where suicide seems to be a repeated theme. There are similar instances in the life that he was living today, of just being unable to connect to people, just being unhappy all the time, driving close people away, wives, children, close family, just not being able to connect.

And in the previous life, there’s a very clear, distinct description of his suicide, which has happened again and again and again over his lives.

And it appears that he’ll repeat that life until such time as he finds a way to get through it. Because that’s, for him, the lesson. But as a client undergoing this experience, he realized that something needed to change. That this is not an isolated life, an isolated case where he can just get rid of it by jumping off a bridge, and that once he gets through that stage, he can move on. Now, that was the only one I had, among thousands of hours of testimony, of such an extreme example of repetitive failure.

Now, it’s probably quite important to clarify that the book Life According to the Soul is structured in a very particular way. It is not research in the way that Michael Newton did it, because Michael’s books are very heavy on narrative, his explanation of what is happening.

The sessions that I did were very focused on the client, and the book is very heavy on the transcripts. And my interventions in terms of narrative are only to clarify something that’s unclear or a concept that’s unclear.

It’s structured to take people through step by step. So, we deal initially with the unworldly question: when did you first join the fetus? Then we go through everybody’s past-life experiences and deaths. Each section is explained using transcripts from several people, focusing only on that part of the process. So it’s much easier for people to follow, not only what is going on, but also to understand the depth and the reality of what people are saying.

So, we move through the book, through the processes, but the structure and order of the book are important because its objectivism allows people to learn from others’ experiences and apply them to their own lives.

What I wanted to do was present this information in a way that is quite different, with a different objective. This is not to explain necessarily what’s happening. This is so people can take, even if a person takes only one paragraph from one session or one aspect of this and incorporates that understanding into their own lives to improve them, then it’s been a success.

Christopher Buck – So the idea is to share with people the connection and the commonality that we have through comparison with the experience of others. To maybe get past the human loneliness that comes from the body’s separation.

David Allen – Absolutely. We naturally perceive ourselves as being alone. But that’s not the case. So many people are unhappy or depressed, and there are experiences in the book that they can relate to. That’s the whole point of it. You can relate to these people the way that they say things, what they say, and sometimes the peculiar things that they say. When a client says, “Wow, I didn’t expect that, that’s not what I expected as a therapist. But it happens the same way we discussed.

Christopher Buck – You are suggesting that we live in some kind of sacred forgetfulness, and that we’re hidden from the ultimate reality while we’re in this one. Do you think this amnesia is a requisite for living? Is it protection? Is it a limitation? Are we supposed to move past that? Are we supposed to become aware in this life of what the greater awareness is?

David Allen – It’s very interesting that often very young children, 2, 3, 4 years old, we’ll talk about these kinds of experiences, and they’re perfectly normal. But by the time they’re 6 or 7, they’re gone. So there is an amnesic state that we are in, because we don’t consciously recognize it. Those who can quiet their minds through meditation and thoughtfulness will be able to channel their energy and find greater peace with themselves.

It provides peace and comfort. For those who have never tried channeling, I recommend you give it a try. You can get channeling CDs, which help with relaxation.

Christopher Buck – You described the human being as a meeting place between biology and mortality: biology with its emotions and senses, and the soul with its memory, compassion, and conscience. Where do you believe the greatest tension is between these two facets, between the biology and the soul?

David Allen – Well, there shouldn’t really be that much tension because joining with the fetus, joining with the human brain, is what most people describe as a relatively straightforward process and a symbiotic one. So they work together. And for the vast majority of people, this is the case. Joining is very straightforward, very simple. The soul and the human brain work very well together, and their life progresses.

Sometimes, if the human side of the body is diseased, if the brain is diseased, that causes enormous damage to the soul. One of the reasons for the heating shower, of course, is when its energy becomes damaged and disrupted; it needs to be, you could say, cleansed, but you could also say rewired if you like. Because it suffers damage by spending a life with a brain that’s damaged or emotional damage within the human that is performing evil acts: that’s damaging for the soul that is trying to contain and maintain control over it. But it’s that this is usually a very, very symbiotic relationship, and it causes no issues whatsoever.

Christopher Buck – Is there one final thought or message about the book that you want to share?

David Allen – Is that the point of the book to be helpful? It’s not necessarily informative in a practical, knowledgeable sense. It’s to be helpful through the testimonies of real people, fuller testimonies, because the book is almost, almost all testimony and very little narrative from me. And the conversations are very engaging. You get very involved in the conversations when you’re reading, and there will be bits in the book you take on board that will help you live a better, fuller life and be more at peace. That, at the end of the day, I suppose, is the meaning of life, just to come to terms with who you are and your spirituality.

Christopher Buck – Life According to The Soul is a fabulous book, and this has been a fascinating conversation. It is currently available for pre-order on Amazon, with a publication date of 7 July 2026.

Order Here: https://amzn.to/4uZmwdM.ZmwdM.

Thank you, David!

David Allen – Thank you, Chris.